Episode 11

Welfare geographies

Published on: 15th February, 2025

Most developed western countries have got some form of welfare state or welfare support for their population. These started in some countries in a rudimentary way in the late 19th century or the interwar years, but most countries saw rapid development in the years after WWII. This was when Britain saw the start of National Insurance, the NHS, free secondary school and university education etc. But all this costs a lot of money and western countries tend to spend a lot of money on welfare provision. In Britain its about 10% of GDP and 24% of government spending. State pensions alone cost about £155 bn a year. What is interesting for us is that welfare needs and expenditure tend of have distinct geographies, both internationally and regionally. Internationally there are big variations between the social democratic, Nordic countries which tend to have generous and expensive welfare states which also require high levels of taxation, and 'liberal' countries like the USA which have more rudimentary forms of support, with correspondingly lower taxes. In the middle are France, Germany and the Netherlands which have extensive welfare states. Many of the less developed countries have minimal or non existent welfare programmes. Within countries, there is often considerable variation in both need and expenditure. In Britain, there are distinct regional variations between the more affluent south east and the less prosperous regions of South Wales, the North, North East which all saw large scale de-industrialisation and collapse of employment in coal mining, ship building, textiles, etc. As a result these areas have higher levels of unemployment, sickness and disability with higher levels of benefit expenditure. These patterns are repeated in other western countries which have seen de-industrialisation and in these areas welfare benefits are an important form of income support.

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Klaus Dodds

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Klaus Dodds is a leading expert in geopolitics and human geography, specialising in the polar regions, border issues, and global security. He is a Senior Research Fellow at RAND Europe and an Honorary Professor of Geopolitics at Royal Holloway, University of London, where he worked for 30 years. He is currently Interim Faculty Dean for Science and Technology at Middlesex University London

Klaus is the author of many books, including the co-written volume Unfrozen: The Fight for the Future of the Arctic (2025), Border Wars (2022), and the best-selling Geopolitics: A Very Short Introduction. His books have been translated into many languages and reviewed in leading newspapers, magazines, and social media platforms.

Beyond the academy, he served as a specialist adviser to several UK parliamentary select committees, including the House of Lords Select Committee on the Arctic and the House of Commons Environmental Audit Committee. He has worked with NATO’s Strategic Foresight Analysis group, advising on future geopolitical trends. Dodds has also provided expert advice to the European Parliament’s Foreign Affairs Committee, amongst other international bodies and companies.

Klaus’s focus is on investigating and explaining how geopolitical and resource competition will shape the present and future. His insights have been gleaned from many years of working with commercial, military, and government stakeholders, alongside global travel which has enabled him to gain first-hand experience of this competition.

Chris Hamnett

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Chris Hamnett is Emeritus professor of geography at King's College London and a visiting professor in the Department of Urban Planning, Renmin University, Beijing. He has held visiting appointments at UBC, Vancouver; University of Cambridge; LSE; Nuffield College Oxford; Sciences Po, Paris; George Washington University, Washington DC, Netherlands Institute of Advanced Studies; UESTC, Chengdu and RUC, Beijing.

He has authored or co-authored several books including 'Cities, Housing and Profits', 1987'; Winners and Losers: the housing market in contemporary Britain, 1998; Safe as Houses: Housing wealth and inheritance in Britain, 1991; A Shrinking world, 1995; London: Unequal city, 2003; Ethnicity, Class and Aspiration, 2011 and Gentrification: An Advanced Introduction, 2021 and over 100 papers in international journals.

He has written for the Times, the FT, the Guardian and the Independent. He is particularly interested in social and housing change in big cities. He was research director of the Nugee Committee on Leasehold flats which led to the 1987 Landlord and Tenant Act, and was a member of both City of Westminster and Ealing Housing Commissions.